by Sue Rickertts
Upon receiving the email at the bottom of this article from a friend, I immediately questioned it. This is one of those things which is being forwarded round and round the internet without any questions being asked. First the idea got a reading when it was introduced early this year, then there was an election held and the bill has never been re-introduced. But still …. the email circulates and nothing is added to it to define it’s current status. You will note that the figures used to support the idea are wrong according to the newspaper who published them. The highest rates are only for those who come here with special needs – not the average immigrant.
The people I questioned were our local MP who is a Liberal and also the Conservative candidate for Guelph who is running in this fall’s provincial election. Interestingly enough, the MP responded as below but the candidate did not. I guess he doesn’t have an opinion on this subject. Too bad because it is a potentially divisive issue in Ontario, particularly in the GTA area where so many immigrants have settled. It’s an attempt to buy votes from that community. Misguided in my opinion because every Canadian citizen will have to pay increased taxes in order to support the idea.
Taking care of the people who have contributed to Canada is more needed than lowering requirements for those who are newly arrived.
Have a read and see what you think? Should the bill come back?
Response from our local MP:
Thank you for contacting me regarding your concerns related to Bill C-428, An Act to amend the Old Age Security Act (residency requirement) and the Resettlement Assistance Program (RAP) for refugees.
Bill C-428 was introduced in the 40th Parliament by Ruby Dhalla, the former MP for Brampton-Springdale and only received First Reading before Parliament was dissolved for the General Election held on May 2nd. Since my return to the 41st Parliament, Bill C-428, or any other Bill similar in nature, has not been re-introduced and it is highly unlikely that one would be brought forward.
As your Member of Parliament, I was not prepared to support Bill C-428 in the 40th Parliament should it ever have come to a vote, an event which was highly doubtful, and I am not prepared to support a similar Bill should one be introduced in this Parliamentary session.
Forty percent of Canadians have no savings for retirement and another forty percent have savings inadequate to provide for them during retirement. Retirement income and national pension reform deserves serious consideration and should be debated in a national public forum. It is important to take action for the tens of thousands of Canadian seniors that currently live in poverty. All seniors deserve to age with dignity and a reasonable standard of living. I will continue to advocate for measures that will improve the quality for life of all seniors including increasing financial support, improving access to health and long-term care, & access to affordable housing.
Regarding the Resettlement Assistance Program (RAP) figures provided in the e-mail, they are the result of an inaccurate article that appeared in the Toronto Star in 2004 and the article was retracted by the newspaper. The RAP is a contribution program that has two main components: income support and a range of immediate essential services. Income support can be provided for a maximum of up to 12 months for regular stream Government Assisted Refugees (GARs), and for up to 24 months for Joint Assistance Sponsorship (JAS) refugees. Only refugees with special needs qualify for JAS. Therefore, the duration of RAP funding is very limited, it can last up to one year from the date of arrival in Canada, or until the refugee can support her or himself, whichever occurs first, and should not be compared to the CPP.
Furthermore, Government Assisted Refugees are not eligible to receive provincial social assistance while receiving RAP income support. RAP income support is provided on a monthly basis and entitlement amounts are guided by provincial social assistance rates for food and shelter. The support provided under RAP covers only the most basic needs, including start-up items such as household furnishing, pots and pans, linens and other items necessary to establish a household. A single Government Assisted Refugee that settles in Ontario typically receives $768.00 per month of RAP income support for 12 months. In most cases, the first month’s instalment is larger as it includes a one timeamount of up to $1,830.00, depending on family size, to cover essential start-up needs like food, furniture and clothing. The newcomer will continue to receive the monthly allowance of $768.00 for another 11 months or until he or she becomes self-sufficient. According to Citizenship and Immigration Canada, only three quarters of resettled refugees receive financial assistance from the federal government, for a limited time, and at levels lower than Canadian pensioners. I invite you to visit the following link from the Department of Citizenship and Immigration’s website which should dispel myths and misconceptions about immigration and citizenship programs:http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/facts/aid.asp
Once again, I would like to thank you for taking the time to express your views, and I continue to welcome your feedback. Please call me should you need me for anything.
Sincerely,
Frank Valeriote, M.P. Guelph
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Upon receiving the email at the bottom of this article from a friend, I immediately questioned it. This is one of those things which is being forwarded round and round the internet without any questions being asked. First the idea got a reading when it was introduced early this year, then there was an election held and the bill has never been re-introduced. But still …. the email circulates and nothing is added to it to define it’s current status. You will note that the figures used to support the idea are wrong according to the newspaper who published them. The highest rates are only for those who come here with special needs – not the average immigrant.
The people I questioned were our local MP who is a Liberal and also the Conservative candidate for Guelph who is running in this fall’s provincial election. Interestingly enough, the MP responded as below but the candidate did not. I guess he doesn’t have an opinion on this subject. Too bad because it is a potentially divisive issue in Ontario, particularly in the GTA area where so many immigrants have settled. It’s an attempt to buy votes from that community. Misguided in my opinion because every Canadian citizen will have to pay increased taxes in order to support the idea.
Taking care of the people who have contributed to Canada is more needed than lowering requirements for those who are newly arrived.
Have a read and see what you think? Should the bill come back?
Response from our local MP:
Thank you for contacting me regarding your concerns related to Bill C-428, An Act to amend the Old Age Security Act (residency requirement) and the Resettlement Assistance Program (RAP) for refugees.
Bill C-428 was introduced in the 40th Parliament by Ruby Dhalla, the former MP for Brampton-Springdale and only received First Reading before Parliament was dissolved for the General Election held on May 2nd. Since my return to the 41st Parliament, Bill C-428, or any other Bill similar in nature, has not been re-introduced and it is highly unlikely that one would be brought forward.
As your Member of Parliament, I was not prepared to support Bill C-428 in the 40th Parliament should it ever have come to a vote, an event which was highly doubtful, and I am not prepared to support a similar Bill should one be introduced in this Parliamentary session.
Forty percent of Canadians have no savings for retirement and another forty percent have savings inadequate to provide for them during retirement. Retirement income and national pension reform deserves serious consideration and should be debated in a national public forum. It is important to take action for the tens of thousands of Canadian seniors that currently live in poverty. All seniors deserve to age with dignity and a reasonable standard of living. I will continue to advocate for measures that will improve the quality for life of all seniors including increasing financial support, improving access to health and long-term care, & access to affordable housing.
Regarding the Resettlement Assistance Program (RAP) figures provided in the e-mail, they are the result of an inaccurate article that appeared in the Toronto Star in 2004 and the article was retracted by the newspaper. The RAP is a contribution program that has two main components: income support and a range of immediate essential services. Income support can be provided for a maximum of up to 12 months for regular stream Government Assisted Refugees (GARs), and for up to 24 months for Joint Assistance Sponsorship (JAS) refugees. Only refugees with special needs qualify for JAS. Therefore, the duration of RAP funding is very limited, it can last up to one year from the date of arrival in Canada, or until the refugee can support her or himself, whichever occurs first, and should not be compared to the CPP.
Furthermore, Government Assisted Refugees are not eligible to receive provincial social assistance while receiving RAP income support. RAP income support is provided on a monthly basis and entitlement amounts are guided by provincial social assistance rates for food and shelter. The support provided under RAP covers only the most basic needs, including start-up items such as household furnishing, pots and pans, linens and other items necessary to establish a household. A single Government Assisted Refugee that settles in Ontario typically receives $768.00 per month of RAP income support for 12 months. In most cases, the first month’s instalment is larger as it includes a one timeamount of up to $1,830.00, depending on family size, to cover essential start-up needs like food, furniture and clothing. The newcomer will continue to receive the monthly allowance of $768.00 for another 11 months or until he or she becomes self-sufficient. According to Citizenship and Immigration Canada, only three quarters of resettled refugees receive financial assistance from the federal government, for a limited time, and at levels lower than Canadian pensioners. I invite you to visit the following link from the Department of Citizenship and Immigration’s website which should dispel myths and misconceptions about immigration and citizenship programs:http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/department/media/facts/aid.asp
Once again, I would like to thank you for taking the time to express your views, and I continue to welcome your feedback. Please call me should you need me for anything.
Sincerely, Frank Valeriote, M.P. Guelph
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FROM: The Hon. Diane Finley P.C.M.P., Minister of Human Resources and Skills Development
I am pleased to respond to your electronic message which was forwarded to me by the Office of the Prime Minister the Right Honourable Stephen Harper regarding private member’s Bill C-428.
As you know Bill C-428 proposes to amend the Old Age Security Act to reduce the residence requirement for entitlement to a monthly pension from ten years to three years. This private member’s bill was introduced in the House of Commons by M.P. Ruby Dhallaa Liberal Opposition Member.
As the Minister responsible I have been very clear that when this Bill comes forward we will strongly oppose it.
The Old Age Security (OAS) pension is paid to seniors in recognition of the contribution that they have made to Canadian society the economy and their community. The OAS program is non-contributory and is based solely on age and residence in Canada after the age of 18. The ten-year residence rule is consistent with many other countries that have residence or contribution requirements associated with their national pensions to ensure that benefits are given in proportion to years of residence or affiliation with their pension programs. With this in mind it is felt that the current ten-year residence requirement represents a balance between a reasonable contribution to Canadian society and the right to receive a lifelong pension.
It is estimated that reducing the ten-year eligibility requirement to three years would cost over $700 million annually in additional OAS and Guaranteed Income Supplement benefits. Given that the OAS program is funded entirely from general tax revenues this would be costly and place an additional burden on the Canadian taxpayer.
Yours sincerely The Hon. Diane Finley P.C.M.P. Minister of Human Resources and Skills Development
Don’t quit yet ………………… The email going around the Internet. It’s meant to inflame everyone and stir up controversy. Fair enough . But the accuracy and truthfulness would help. ___________________________________________________________________________________
Bill #C-428 [THANKS TO RUBY DHALLA AND BOB RAE]
Only if you disagree with this Bill … pass this message along.
This bill should not have seen the light of day … and yet it will receive second reading at the next session.
Please read the bill and make your own decision. If you disagree with the bill send this to everyone over the age of 50 in your address book …. or those who may be turning 50 a few years
Hopefully by letting your member of parliament know your feelings on the bill it will be defeated.
If you agree with the bill you don’t need to do anything..
URGENT ATTENTION About Our OAS pensions Bill C-428 An Act to Amend the Old Age Security Act (residency requirements)
Bill C-428 will allow recent immigrants to apply for OAS in 3 years instead of the existing 10.
This bill had first reading in the house on June 18, 2009. It was seconded by Bob Rae! MP Ms Ruby Dhalla who introduced the bill represents the riding of Brampton whose population is mainly East Indian. Right now you have to have lived in Canada for 10 years in order to qualify for Old Age Security. She wants the time reduced to 3 years. Thousands could come to Canada when they are 62 years old never having worked or contributed to this country’s tax system etc and qualify for full Old Age Security benefits. 10 years minimum is reasonable – 3 is not!
Look this up Google C-428 and you will see this bill has only one purpose and that is to ‘featherbed’ a select group of people for votes.
I certainly hope this bill does not get passed. It is about time we called our elected MP’s to ask them to NOT support this bill. Their response may be one factor in helping us determine who gets elected in the next election.
Keep on reading and then ACT !
What Can You Do?
1. Spread the message to family friends and e-mail buds.
2. Write letters send e-mails to all your list and call Members of Parliament
It is time Canada looked after it’s vets and long-term citizens before tossing OUR hard-earned money around on people who have no right to this money, never having paid taxes or contributed to our economy. If a family wishes to bring elderly relatives here and are willing to waive their own right to collect these funds in order that the elderly relatives can receive them … fine. Otherwise do not expect the Canadian taxpayers to do it.
There are too many people abusing the generosity of the Canadian people. We need to stop this NOW. We, our children and our grand children currently owe the global investment community over $500 billion dollars … the sum of our accumulated National Debt that is never publicized.
Now READ THIS..
Canada Pensions… Only in Canada
* It is interesting to know that the federal Government of Canada allows :
a.. A monthly pension of : $1,890.00 to a simple refugee
b. plus: $580.00 in social aid
Equals ========== A grand total of : $2,470.00 monthly X 12 months
Equals ==========$28,920.00 annual income
By comparison the Old Age Pension of a senior citizen who has contributed to the development of Our Beautiful Big Country during 40 or 50 years CANNOT receive more than :
a. Amount/month $1,012.00 in Old Age Pension and Guaranteed Income Supplement
x 12 months
Equals ============
$12,144.00 annual income
A difference of : $16,776.00 per year
* Perhaps our senior citizens should ask for the Status of Refugees instead of applying for Old Age Pension.
* Let us send this message to as many Canadians as possible and maybe the allowance of refugee could then be reduced to $1012.00 and that of our Canadian pensioners (who actually deserve it) raised to $2470.00 per month… the money that they have been paying in income taxes for 40 or 50 years AN INCREDIBLE NONSENSE !!!
OUR CANADIAN SENIORS CITIZENS DESERVE BETTER
Please circulate this text to see the reaction of your contacts !
And in conclusion I say, please don’t circulate anything without thinking about what it is and questioning it’s accuracy. Always get the facts right before telling others.